Blog EntryAmmunition for AtheistsFeb 9, '07 5:51 PM
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Ammunition for Atheists


By Jack Huberman, Nation Books
Posted on February 8, 2007
http://www.alternet.org/story/47765/

The following is an excerpt from Jack Huberman's new book, The Quotable Atheist: Ammunition for Nonbelievers, Political Junkies, Gadflies, and Those Generally Hell-Bound (Nation Books, 2007).

The world (not just America) is deeply divided.The main fault line is where the tectonic plates of religion and of reason/secularism/ modernity/science/Enlightenment meet and grind against each other,making an absolutely unbearable noise. It's sort of like ... forget it, I can't describe it.

My aim in compiling The Quotable Atheist was to heal our broken planet, essentially by eliminating the religious part. Not with nuclear weapons or lesser acts of mass murder, no -- that's the religious style, nowadays, in certain quarters -- but through argument, persuasion, and most of all (since I know perfectly well that argument is utterly useless against dumb, blind faith, and just wanted to pay it lip service), the steady application of powerfully abrasive ridicule which will slowly but surely erode away the offending continent. I'm serious. Do I really believe this book will convert believers and turn them from the path of self-righteousness to the path of righteousness? Yes. A few. Three, I estimate. Two for sure. But the point is this:

For years, millions of fine, upstanding American atheists and agnostics have watched and stewed as the religious right expanded its influence throughout public life, and as America closed its mind and opened its heart to angels, aliens, ghosts, psychics, Jesus, astrology, Kabbalah, Genesis, Revelation. ... As Sam Harris wrote in The End of Faith, "Unreason is now ascendant in the United States -- in our schools, in our courts, and in each branch of the federal government. Only 28 percent of Americans believe in evolution; 68 percent believe in Satan. Ignorance in this degree, concentrated in both the head and belly of a lumbering superpower, is now a problem for the entire world."

Meanwhile, religion continues to be granted far too much respect and too little critical examination in our culture and mainstream media.We need to change the cultural climate so as to make supernatural, occult, and faith-based claptrap feel unwelcome and to make adults ashamed of the blithe surrender of their otherwise sound minds to idiocy.We need climate change. Bullshit levels are rising globally, threatening to submerge intellectually low-lying areas. Much of the United States is already inundated.Temperatures are rising; IQs are dropping. Four of the five stupidest years on record have occurred since 2000.

I would of course have preferred a declaration by the president of the United States -- purportedly God's messenger on earth -- stating that neither God nor WMDs ever existed and that most religious beliefs are untrue and harmful, and urging citizens to bring their minds back up at least to an eighteenth-century stage of development. (I have proposed this plan in a letter to George W. Bush, but haven't heard back yet. They must be hashing out the details.) Failing that, it is up to atheist/secularist groups and individuals to do what we can to stop global worming (people groveling like worms before nonexistent deities). That's where this book comes in.

As a number of these collected quotes say (far more wittily): Religion in general is based on falsehoods -- comforting beliefs in a heavenly parent or big brother; hopes of surviving death -- and on utility or expedience: socially cohesive tribal myths; politically useful codes of law and behavior; divine ordination of rulers (including certain presidents); attempts to explain, influence, or placate nature and the elements; the wish to raise ourselves above (i.e., deny our place among) the animals. Religion may help people feel their lives have a loftier purpose than the mere satisfaction of material wants and sensual desires, but it does it with smoke and mirrors, at the cost of our respect for truth and of our integrity and dignity.

The following quotes are selected from The Quotable Atheist.

Richard Dawkins: Kenyan-born British zoologist and evolutionary theorist.

"Could we get some otherwise normal humans and somehow persuade them that they are not going to die as a consequence of flying a plane smack into a skyscraper? ... The afterlifeobsessed suicidal brain really is a weapon of immense power and danger. It is comparable to a smart missile. ...Yet ... it is very very cheap. ...To fill a world with religion, or religions of the Abrahamic kind, is like littering the streets with loaded guns. Do not be surprised if they are used." - 2001

"[A letter to a U.K. newspaper] says 'science provides an explanation of the mechanism of the [December 2004 Asian] tsunami but it cannot say why this occurred any more than religion can.' There, in one sentence, we have the religious mind displayed before us in all its absurdity. In what sense of the word 'why', does plate tectonics not provide the answer? Not only does science know why the tsunami happened, it can give precious hours of warning. If a small fraction of the tax breaks handed out to churches, mosques and synagogues had been diverted into an early warning system, tens of thousands of people, now dead, would have been moved to safety. Let's get up off our knees, stop cringing before bogeymen and virtual fathers, face reality, and help science to do something constructive about human suffering."

Phyllis Diller: (1917– ), American comedian.

"Religion is such a medieval idea. Don't get me started. ... Aahh, it’s all about money..."

Phil Donahue: (1935-) American talk-show host.

From Donahue's 1985 book The Human Animal:

"Science may have come a long way, but as far as religion is concerned, we are first cousins to the !Kung tribesmen of the Kalahari Desert. Except for the garments, their deep religious trances might just as well be happening at a revival meeting or in the congregation of a fundamentalist TV preacher. ... As we move further from the life of ignorance and superstition in which religion has its roots, we seem to need it more and more. ... Why has religion become a force just when we'd have thought it would be losing ground to secularism?"

Frederick Douglass: (1818-1895), African-American abolitionist leader.

"I prayed for freedom for twenty years, but received no answer until I prayed with my legs."

"The church of this country is not only indifferent to the wrongs of the slave, it actually takes sides with the oppressors. ... For my part, I would say, welcome infidelity! Welcome atheism! Welcome anything! in preference to the gospel, as preached by these Divines! They convert the very name of religion into an engine of tyranny and barbarous cruelty, and serve to confirm more infidels, in this age, than all the infidel writings of Thomas Paine, Voltaire, and Bolingbroke put together have done!"

"We have men sold to build churches, women sold to support the gospel, and babes sold to purchase Bibles for the poor heathen, all for the glory of God and the good of souls. The slave auctioneer's bell and the church-going bell chime in with each other, and the bitter cries of the heart-broken slave are drowned in the religious shouts of his pious master. Revivals of religion and revivals in the slave trade go hand in hand."

Jerry Falwell: (1933- ), American evangelical pastor, televangelist, and leading excrescence.

"Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions."

Thomas Jefferson: (1743-1826), third U.S. president.

"I have recently been examining all the known superstitions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstition (Christianity) one redeeming feature. They are all alike, founded upon fables and mythologies."

"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man. ... perverted into an engine for enslaving mankind ... a mere contrivance [for the clergy] to filch wealth and power to themselves."

"In every country and in every age the priest has been hostile to liberty, he is always in allegiance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection of his own. ... History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. ... Political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves [of public ignorance] for their own purpose."

Michael Moore: (1954- ), American documentary filmmaker and author.

"There's a gullible side to the American people. They can be easily misled. Religion is the best device used to mislead them."

Katha Pollitt: (1949- ), American poet and columnist for The Nation.

"For me, religion is serious business -- a farrago of authoritarian nonsense, misogyny and humble pie, the eternal enemy of human happiness and freedom."


30 CommentsChronological   Reverse   Threaded
cogmios wrote on Feb 9, '07
I liked it. I blogged it:)
slystone wrote on Feb 10, '07, edited on Feb 10, '07
It takes faith to believe in evolution. No missing links. No spontaneous regeneration. Darwinism is the religion of the atheists. The credo is to add "1 billion years" to anything material, and you create life. Magic Mud. All life from a "simple cell." A cell was "simple" in the 1800's, prophet Darwin's age. Any tampering in the exact order of a genome count results in certain death of a species, not birth of a new creature.
daspider wrote on Feb 10, '07
It takes an idiot to post all that disinformation in one single paragraph.
I feel so tempted to delete you tiny nonsensical face from my posts.
felonisssalt wrote on Feb 10, '07
I disagree, daspider. It takes FAITH to post misinformation. You can see he hasn't done his homework, so he must be getting his misinformation SOMEwhere, and in my experience fundaments have a lot of faith in other (ill-informed) fundaments. Hey! Why not? It's so much easier and cheaper than working...say in college...or just hitting the books on one's own.

If you don't know the complicated background of it, the bible is a very easy book, especially if you aren't using it for a road map to life, in which case it's crammed with difficulties because of its myriad inconsistencies.
daspider wrote on Feb 10, '07
Who but an idiot would consider teaching faith instead of facts or live their lives by a book written in parables?
I stick to idiot.
slystone wrote on Feb 11, '07, edited on Feb 11, '07
It takes an idiot to post all that disinformation in one single paragraph.
I feel so tempted to delete you tiny nonsensical face from my posts.
But u won't delete me. I'm the only friend u got.
See u tomorrow.
slystone wrote on Feb 11, '07
I disagree, daspider. It takes FAITH to post misinformation. You can see he hasn't done his homework, so he must be getting his misinformation SOMEwhere, and in my experience fundaments have a lot of faith in other (ill-informed) fundaments. Hey! Why not? It's so much easier and cheaper than working...say in college...or just hitting the books on one's own.

If you don't know the complicated background of it, the bible is a very easy book, especially if you aren't using it for a road map to life, in which case it's crammed with difficulties because of its myriad inconsistencies.
creepy
slystone wrote on Feb 11, '07
Darwin didn't even come up with his religion/philosophy of evolution....

In What Darwin Really Said, historian Farrington recognized Darwin's lust for fame
and thus his failure to acknowledge the previous contributions by others:

"No reader, however, could guess from the opening page of The Origin that descent with modification
had a long history before Darwin took up his pen."

"Darwinism" was a term first applied to the evolutionary ideas of Erasmus Darwin,
a well-known physician in England. His grandson Charles was quite familiar with the concepts of evolution
that Erasmus Darwin and numerous others were discussing in the early 1800s.

Darwin pretended to have just stumbled upon the idea while on the Beagle and upon his return home. After talking about "that mystery of mysteries," Darwin wrote, "After five years' work I allowed myself to speculate on the subject."

Not a word about his grandfather Erasmus, Lamarck, or any of the others, like Matthew, who had written about the subject in 1831:

"Those only come to maturity (who have survived) the strict ordeal by which nature tests their adaptation to her standards of perfection and fitness to continue their kind by reproduction."

Now Darwin's young charges litter the boards with nonsense they can't even defend.
daspider wrote on Feb 11, '07, edited on Feb 11, '07
Good job, sly, I am impressed! You actually made it through the preface!

Perhaps we're heading to a next step of discussions, where a deeper understanding of science and of the theory that you so harshly criticized without ever having studied before allows you to make insightful comments, instead of the usual nonsense. Maybe then I can start taking you seriously.
slystone wrote on Feb 11, '07
how about contributing? your tired come-backs are getting old
daspider wrote on Feb 11, '07
I don't see you posting any article.
felonisssalt wrote on Feb 11, '07, edited on Feb 11, '07
Who but an idiot would consider teaching faith instead of facts or live their lives by a book written in parables?
I stick to idiot.
Devil's Advocate here:

Remember the Roman soldier's reply when Brian (Life of Brian) was being nailed up? To Brian's protestations, "You don't HAVE to do this. You don't HAVE to take orders." the soldier answers, "I LIKE orders!"

Similarly, I like parables. I like Jesus as well...at least most of "him"...not that I think of Jesus as a real person, because of all the nonsense about his auspicious birth, the miracles, the raising of the dead and all that.

Rather like Superman or the Lone Ranger, wasn't it? Consider how medicine was practiced during the Renaissance (1500 years later)! Believe me, *kande makes a demand of faith in expecting to be believed* Renaissance medicine was definitely faith based. But much of the New Testament teaching was recommendations on how to behave toward other people. If you don't take opportunists into account, Jesus was right on! Considering the times, "his" New Testament teachings were definitely an improvement, and the morality he demanded STILL presents a challenge.

But the demand of faith...I figure that was tacked on later, as well as all that glossy stuff (Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace, etc.) Hey, what do you expect? Cults are run by opportunists.

Facts trump faith anytime. Faith is for folks who can't "handle" facts.
slystone wrote on Feb 11, '07
I don't see you posting any article.
Because you delete them, moron.
slystone wrote on Feb 11, '07
Desperate Housewife said: "Facts trump faith anytime. Faith is for folks who can't "handle" facts."

You're not very bright....

The FACT is, Evolution is one of the very oldest religious concepts; again much irony here by "atheists!""""""

The theory that everything had evolved by some natural process rather than being created by a supernatural power had been around for many years.

Some of its tenets, like the eternalness of matter, were included in the Babylonian creation epic, the Enuma Elish.

Evolutionary ideas can be traced through the philosophies of many ancient nations, including the Chinese, Hindu, Egyptian, and Assyrian.

The Egyptians, for example, had long believed in the spontaneous generation of frogs after the Nile had flooded, and the Chinese thought that insects appeared from nothing on the leaves of plants.

The first to elucidate the theory of evolution in a clear, coherent manner, involving a simple-to-complex progression, was Thales of Miletus (640-546 B.C.)

His was the first name to be mentioned in Greek science. He began with water which developed into other elements.

These first elements developed into plants, then into simple animals, and finally into more complex forms like man.1
felonisssalt wrote on Feb 11, '07, edited on Feb 11, '07
sly(?)stone wrote "You're not very bright...." to Desperate Housewife, whoever that is.

I? Well, dammitall, if he means ME, then he's just hurt my widdle feelings!

*sob*

*****************************************************************

You need not go to

http://www.creationism.org/books/sunderland/DarwinsEnigma/DarwinsEnigma_02Darwinism.htm

to copy and paste information on this subject. Although it's sad you weren't up to doing your OWN writing, I'm curious: Wouldn't it be more helpful to present this information to people in need of it?

Nonetheless, it's good to know that a fundament like yourself can refer to the Enuma Elish as a religious document rather than just another creation myth, because in so doing you make it par with the Hebrew creation myths (There's two of them...) in Genesis.

You're broadening your little horizons...YAY! That is, you might be if you even read what you copied and pasted, which seems unlikely considering the content. O! And of course you know that pre-science beliefs are rarely credible in the light of modern scientific achievement.

Or do you?

slystone wrote on Feb 12, '07
At last dialogue! How refreshing! Half a desperate brain is better than a smidgen....
slystone wrote on Feb 12, '07, edited on Feb 12, '07
"You're broadening your little horizons...YAY!"

Actually not here, but other posts. You people are creepy and march lock-step to anything with a pulse that chants "Magic Mud + 1 billion years."

Goose stepping like in the 40's.
Darwin ain't THAT charismatic.
slystone wrote on Feb 12, '07, edited on Feb 12, '07
"Wouldn't it be more helpful to present this information to people in need of it? "

LOL,, talk abut self-delusion...

Convincing atheists that Monkeys and Apes are not connected to their genes, psychosis and id is quite daunting.

I was right; u AREN'T very bright!

daspider wrote on Feb 12, '07
Your posts often contain the words Darwin or Evolution, even when the subject of the thread is not even slightly related to the subject.

I didn't delete any article from you, to the present moment, I haven't seen any. What I delete is off topic word salad that you copy-paste from older posts desperately trying to give new life to old forgotten ideas. What makes you think they'll stick if they didn't in the first time?
slystone wrote on Feb 12, '07
get a life
daspider wrote on Feb 12, '07
Get a topic of your own.
slystone wrote on Feb 13, '07, edited on Feb 13, '07
drop dead
feed worm
you're just recruiting believers of an afterlife!
used like a tool
nepeta wrote on Feb 13, '07
drop dead
feed worm
you're wishing the death of a person, aren't you sinning?
daspider wrote on Feb 13, '07
drop dead
feed worm
you're just recruiting believers of an afterlife!
used like a tool
I will just quote in case you delete it. Want to keep our Muslim inspiring example alive.
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